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A discussion I started with the Zionist DA user who uploaded this [link] instead of letting my reply to his statement he disable comments on the page and blocked me, this is my response to what he wrote.
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A little discussion I had with the DA user who uploaded this [link] - Attacking Babies Photograph until he blocked me to stop me from replying to him.

Musl1m 17 hours ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist

Theres right and theres wrong, and all politics does is cause confusion between the two. This was wrong but it doesn't change the fact that the number of children killed by Israeli 'defence' forces far out weighs the number of children killed by Palestinian terrorists. Israel has nothing to fear from the Palestinians the Israeli army is one the best equipped and trained fighting forces in the world and is fully backed and supported by the world's only super power and their so called enemy is fractured, poverty-stricken, economically strangled Arab non state with no powerful friends to buy them arms or shield them in the UN. What happened to this girl was inhumane and a crime but it does not excuse or justify 60 years of occupation, humiliation, murder, racism, assassinations and military incursions.

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Moto53 11 hours ago  Professional Traditional Artist

Lies. Although the IDF is amount the strongest armies in the world, it is probably the only army that follows the Geneva accords completely. Palestinian children were killed by the Army, only because they were used as human shields by Hamas and Fatah terrorists. Over 5000 Israelis were murdered by Palestinians since 1948.

The Palestinians, unlike Israel, always received help from the UN, the EU and the Arab states. The Palestinian Authority is one of the richest governmental organizations in the world, but the cause for the "Palestinian poverty" is because the Fatah and it's allies are taking all the money.

There are no 60 years of "occupation". Until 1964 (creation of the PLO), there was never a word about "occupation". When the Egyptian nationalist, Yasser Arafat, decided with his Egyptian and Tunisian friends to start the Palestinian nationalism, their only goal was to kill Jews (as still specifide under "cleanse the Jews entirely", in the Hamas charter). Let's reach to the largest extent of the "occupation", where we control the West Bank and the Gaza strip. The control began in 1967, meaning the so-called "occupation" is only 45 years old. That would be the case, but there is no occupation, because the IDF is not a foreign army in the Land of Israel, and until 1980, there was never a political organization/structure/state/country, by the name of "Palestine"/"Filistin"/"Falastin"/"Filtstin" etc.

Humiliations are a result of stupid people, not because the IDF is "evil". Murder was never committed by the IDF, only for the self-protection of Israel when the Hamas fired rockets. Murder and assassinations were only committed by Palestinians (because of the Olympics, see 1972 Munich Olympic massacre).

Unlike the Palestinians, the state of Israel is not racist at all. 20% of Israelis are Arabs, and they enjoy all the rights that Jews receive, freedom of speech, freedom of religion etc. There are Arab judges in the Supreme court, Arab Knesset members (Congressmen/women) and Arab artists in Israeli pop culture. Same thing goes to Druze, Circussians, Armenians, Bedouins etc.

The Palestinians on the other hand, practice racism every day. Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen), president of the Palestinian Authority, declared that "No Jews will be allowed in the future Palestinian state". Same speech as the "Juden Frei" of Hitler.

STOP YOUR IGNORANCE.

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Musl1m NOW  Hobbyist Digital Artist

To claim that the IDF completely follows the Geneva convention on Human rights and that it follows international law to the letter is a delusion.

In the Gaza war of 2009 the IDF killed hundreds of Palestinians in the most crowded strip of land in the world using highly dangerous and inhumane methods such as White phosphorus. [link] The damage done to Gaza was vast, a large percentage of its infrastructure was destroyed, its economy devastated. Over a thousand people killed including hundreds of children and the general population are suffering from birth defects and increases in cancer cases as a result of the depleted uranium and radioactive material used in Israeli weapons. [link] Israel also stopped offering medical care to Palestinians in Israeli hospitals and because of the blockage Palestinian hospitals didn't have the correct equipment or medication to treat all the victims of war. Israel was accused of using human shields in the war and in deliberately targeting civilians and children in the war. [link] [link] [link] [link]

Israel's attack on the Mavi Marva ship, part of a Turkish flotilla shows that the IDF are overly aggressive, they are willing to attack and kill civilians on an aid boat in international waters in the middle of the night. The boat was found to have no illegal materials, all the activists not killed were released and the ships returned. [link]

Israel essentially is a western backed rouge state, it has ignored more UN Security Council Resolutions that any other country in the world. [link] The US has started wars against other nations for ignoring UN resolutions but they continually protect Israel in the UN and veto sanctions against Israel for its illegal actives and its defiance of International Law.

The Palestinian Authority is not rolling in money, it has a financial deficit of $1.5 billion for 2012. It is totally reliant on foreign donations so much so that it is unable to even pay its own workers on time or wholly. The Palestinian economy literally sabotaged by the Israel blockades and border controls over Palestinian territory. [link]

The 1948 partition of the Arab lands into 'Israel' and 'Palestine" was unjust, many UN member nations including India and Liberia were financially pressured by the United States to vote for the partition plan. [link] The plan was inherently unjust the Jews who owned 7% of the land and made up 33% of the population were awarded 56% of the Land under the partition plan. [link] 'Israel' and 'Palestine' did not exist prior to 1948 but the land was 93% owned by Arabs and inhabited by Arabs. The US and its allies took the land from its legitimate owners and 'gave' it to the Jewish people.

After the 1948 war 750,000 of the 1.2 million Arabs living in the British Mandate of Palestine fled or were driven out by the Israelis. This was when the occupation began, when hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were forced from their homes. This allowed millions of Jews to emigrate to the newly 'conquered' state of Israel. [link]

Israel has been using assassinations as a weapon against its enemies since the 1950's from military threats in Egypt to political threats in Palestine and even scientists in Iran. [link]

Arabs in Israel are seen by politicians and authorities as a fifth column, a threat to the national security of the country. If the Arab population continues to grow some Israelis have gone as far as to say Arabs should be expelled to keep Israel Jewish. [link] The Israeli state was set up for a single racial group and therefore it will always been racist regardless of how much it hides it. Israel continues its racist policy of demolishing homes in East Jerusalem, Arabs are not given permits to build on their own land and their homes in the city are destroyed so that modern homes can be built for Jewish citizens. [link] The plan is to force the Arabs out of East Jerusalem and colonise it by building new houses and encouraging Jews to move into them. The Arab population of Israel is far worse off than Jewish nationals. 61% of Israeli Arab families live below the poverty line (they make up 20% of the Israeli population) compared to 29% of Jewish families. The Israeli state spends on average $1100 per year for every Jewish student but only $192 on average per year on Israeli Arab students. That is not equality. [link] The growth and popularity of right wing and far right parties and politics in Israel will only make life more difficult for Israeli Arabs. Its becoming increasingly clear that Arabs have no future in Israel at least not until there is peace.

It is totally understandable why Palestinians wouldn't want Jews/Israelis living in a future Palestinian state after what has happened over the last 60 years. Just as we wouldn't expect Afghans to want Russians living in Afghanistan after the decade long war there or Israelis wanting gentile Germans living in Israel after World War 2. Its a natural response to the situation they have endured.

I think both Hamas and Fatah are corrupt and flawed, they don't truly represent the hopes, wishes and aspirations of the Palestinian people. I hope to see a secular, liberal, progressive and democratic political movement arise from Palestine but that doesn't excuse the crimes done against Palestine by Israel.

I think your outlook on the situation is typical of extremists, anything that supports or reinforces your own position must be true and genuine but anything against your position or beliefs must be wrong, must be a lie or conspiracy. Open your eyes, turn off Fox News and the rest of the biased shit. At the end of the day its innocent people that suffer the most from this futile aggression.